Feature request: Please add an endpoint that is by stock ticker (e.g. "https://corporate.watch/AAPL", as some companies do their financial reporting on a different calendar, and it would be nice to reference with respect to their "datetime zone".
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Real World aside: The other day I tried to 3D print small text. (Not super small, just the usual 0.4 nozzle size.) Comic Sans worked out best for this due to pretty constant line width.
Nothing more corporate / enterprise than deciding the year starts at any point other than January 1st :) (yeah I know all about the fiscal year, which I also find hilarious)
Some of them don't even start on a month boundary, or even on the same day every year. Cisco, for instance, has a fiscal year based on a retail calendar[0]; their fiscal year ends on the last full week in July.
Offset financial years mean your finance people aren’t working furiously between Christmas and New Years getting the EoY stuff done. I feel bad for the ones in my company every year.
This is fun. Seems like you got several comments here trying to "improve" it's "usefulness". I like it as is, a piece of art on how corporate speak is unrealistically obtuse.
They would have had to add a leap week every five or six years to keep that in sync with the normal calendar - did they do that, or did they just let the calendar drift?
It's been... almost 20 years since I looked at that.
I believe that it had a slightly floating start date.
NetApp fiscal quarters are:
Quarter Three: October 28, 2024 through January 24, 2025
Quarter Four: January 28, 2025 through April 25, 2025
Quarter One: April 28, 2025 through July 25, 2025
Quarter Two: July 27, 2024 through October 23, 2025
And from Wayback (adjusted to fit same ordering)
Quarter Three: October 29, 2018 through January 27, 2019
Quarter Four: January 28, 2019 through April 26, 2019
Quarter One: April 30, 2018 through July 27, 2018
Quarter Two: July 30, 2018 through October 26, 2018
I remember the 4-4-5 from back then (started in '98, was laid off in '09) because we had the old style BIG releases where it was a weekend of things changing (and that was ok). The last weekend of the first month was infrastructure major changes, the last weekend of the second month was software major changes, and the last two weeks of the third month were hard frozen for accounting to not have changes.
It looks like they had a 14-week quarter from April 27, 2020 to July 31, 2020. Given that there's only one 14-week quarter in the data set (which is about what you'd expect) I can't figure out what the rule is, but oh well.
You know what is really wild and caused a few bugs in corporate reporting apps? Every 5 or 6 years you need to account for a 14 week quarter. 13 * 7 is 364 so four 13 week quarters will not add up to a calendar year.
I really like this. As easy as it is to be cynical about corporate-speak, I find that it's sometimes actually useful (except for the whole touching base and circling back jargon).
Questions. When do weeks start? On Saturdays or Sundays? How do you account for partial weeks at the beginning/end of years?
ISO 8601 covers that. Weeks start on Mondays. The first week of the year has January 4th in it, which means that it sometimes starts on a Monday in the previous Gregorian year. This is why strftime has separate format specifiers for ISO year and ISO week year, %Y and %G: https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/strftime.3.html#NO...
My company (left unnamed to protect the guilty) starts our week on Thursday. Or sometimes Wednesday. But definitely not on Tuesday! Except a couple of places where it's Tuesday.
It's juuuust close enough to ISO8601 where with a bit of forethought everything could have been easy.
I was expecting something much dumber than this. I don't mean the idea or the execution. I mean what was being executed. If someone tells me they're going to tell the time "in corporate", I'm expecting inefficiency masquerading as management, inscrutable abbreviations, divisional infighting, at least one personality profile tool, teambuilding, and an astonishing use of passive voice. I was genuinely excited to see how that would translate to a clock.
Based on previous discussions during a review with higher ups, there need to be some options as to how the week numbers are counted. Can you action that by KW10.3 and report back. I will create a JIRA ticket for tracking.
Many thanks for your support.
I like it! I recently got quite interested into different ways of looking at the "seasonality" of the year, financial quarters are definitely also a way to look at it.
I really like looking at the way the sun defines stuff, I made a similar website for how long until the next solstice etc. https://solarcalendar.earth/
What I would add to this (perhaps below the fold):
1. The current time in a few major cities around the world (NYC, SFO, London, CET, Mumbai and Beijing come to mind), with an indication of where it's working day (which is not 9 to 5 everywhere). Particular emphasis should be put on timezones that just started and ended daylight saving (EU and US aren't synchronized on this).
2. Upcoming holidays in major world countries.
3. Info about which fiscal year it is and when that's going to change.
You could probably get Claude to build you an artifact for this in 5 minutes though.
to really amp it to corpo-speak, you should use the Severance styling, they've done a great job really taking out the personality from any of their design. feels very dystopian + peak corporate!
I lose a little more will to live each time someone smugly reminds us that the fiscal year actually started in February or whatever the fuck. God dammit can we just have one CALENDAR. It’s okay I know you need to close the finances or whatever, but why can’t that just end in January and start again in February, instead of creating this dumb second year for ourselves.
You know what it is? A leaky abstraction. Implementation details of finance leaking into something as fundamentally basic as the calendar for the entire rest of the company. NO!!!
Uhm? The site doesn't show what week it is..? It's currently week 9 of 2025, but the site shows W7 of Q1. (Maybe that's what you meant? Searching for the current week in the quarter?)
I actually encountered T1 in a company presentation once. I thought they were joking, but it's apparently a thing also. I guess it hits the sweet spot between a half year and a quarter...
I've always been curious about folks who use this phrasing and tone.
"Are you aware" always seems condescending to me. It's a weird assumption to make that because someone made a choice, that they weren't aware that there were other choices.
It's like walking up to someone who drives a Honda and saying "are you aware you could have bought a Ford?"
Please help me, us there another interpretation of this kind of phrasing?
You could take it at face value. I have no idea if this was a 15 minute off-the-cuff effort, or a larger researched project. Rather than assume they either did or did not know, I asked. If they knew, they can explain their choice more. If they did not, they have something new to look into.
If you are taking it as condescending, that is on you. It was simply a question.
The best way to look at it is that "are you aware" is always condescending. There are two answers; yes and no. If they say yes, they have to apologize for not adding your feature. If they say no, you're calling them ignorant. There isn't an out that deescalates and reduces the toxicity, so you're forcing everyone to now be as rude as you.
Phrasing your statement like "my corporate year starts on November 15th; is there any way to offset the start of the year?" would sound nicer. If the author was aware of that and didn't add the feature, then they can say so. Or if they weren't aware, they can say "good idea". Now nobody has to get defensive and the heat of the conversation can generally decrease, keeping everyone happy and polite.
> If you are taking it as condescending, that is on you.
Tone is an essential, unavoidable, yet undefineable thing. There's a geek fantasy that humans communicate logically and explicitly using only literal meanings of words, but the reality is that most human communication is in body language, tone, emotion, context, and more - and there's no way to define exactly how all those work or what they mean.
I got the same impression as the GP. I'm not always great at it myself but unless I make sure my tone conveys what I want it to convey, I'm rolling the dice.
I hate the "not all" argument. It falsely accuses us of making a claim that all X has property Y. It falsely implies that we cannot comment about a feature unless we expand the comment to the universe of other features. The "didn't you know" barb ties in here, as it presupposed that we somehow agreed to this "must include all" rule and broke it.
I would like to integrate with 30 bespoke SSO providers; is that something that I could be charged $100/user/month for after spending 8 hours of my time in some Zoom calls with people that aren't sure?
A quick Google shows 65% of public companies use calendar year as their FY.
At our startup, it's even more complicated :) we use calendar year for official financial / business metrics, while our planning quarter is offset by 1 month (Q1 = Feb/Mar/Apr).
At least you're using the actual months. I've recently had to deal with 4-5-4 Retail Calendars. Explaining to my coworkers why the data for September includes dates from both August and October, and that's Working As Intended.
I can't remember the last time I worked at a corporation that used the actual Gregorian calendar.
Most of the times it's some shadow-Greg calendar that's slightly out of phase. E.g., I think my 2025Q1 starts on 1 Mar? I've never been entirely sure.
Intel used some "work week" concept that I never figured out the rules for, in the entire time I worked there, beyond that it wasn't ISO weeks.
The spirit of the idea is neat, though, and I should build something like this internally but using whatever esocalendar we're using… then I'd be able to remember whether we're +1 mo, +2 mo, 1Y-1mo … or whatever … out of phase with normal people.
> The International Fixed Calendar divides the year into 13 months of 28 days each. A type of perennial calendar, every date is fixed to the same weekday every year. Though it was never officially adopted at the country level, the entrepreneur George Eastman instituted its use at the Eastman Kodak Company in 1928, where it was used until 1989.
Feature request: Please add an endpoint that is by stock ticker (e.g. "https://corporate.watch/AAPL", as some companies do their financial reporting on a different calendar, and it would be nice to reference with respect to their "datetime zone".
Our corpo year starts May 1.
Please add an offset functionality to your free solution immediately, as it has now become a core component of our operation, or we will be forced to take legal action.
Also, we appreciate if you could sign a retroactive NDA with our legal team ASAP.
My boss tells me we need it in Comic Sans for the next meeting with our board of directors.
Thank you.
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When will this tool have SOC compliance and SSO support?
The devs on this must be sleeping. F for not paying attention to your users’ needs.
Real World aside: The other day I tried to 3D print small text. (Not super small, just the usual 0.4 nozzle size.) Comic Sans worked out best for this due to pretty constant line width.
Now there's a design that pops!
Nothing more corporate / enterprise than deciding the year starts at any point other than January 1st :) (yeah I know all about the fiscal year, which I also find hilarious)
Some of them don't even start on a month boundary, or even on the same day every year. Cisco, for instance, has a fiscal year based on a retail calendar[0]; their fiscal year ends on the last full week in July.
0 - https://nrf.com/resources/4-5-4-calendar
lol, yep, mine is 1st October?!
Offset financial years mean your finance people aren’t working furiously between Christmas and New Years getting the EoY stuff done. I feel bad for the ones in my company every year.
This is fun. Seems like you got several comments here trying to "improve" it's "usefulness". I like it as is, a piece of art on how corporate speak is unrealistically obtuse.
The "improve its usefulness" comments are totally inline with suits (execs) interacting with smellies (software) and make this even better.
> I like it as is, a piece of art on how corporate speak is unrealistically obtuse.
Definitely obtuse. Why unrealistic though?
> ... each quarter is ~13 weeks ...
When I worked at Network Appliance (Q1 earnings call is August 27th), they used a strict 4-4-5 calendar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4–4–5_calendar
This meant that it wasn't "about" 13 weeks for each quarter, the quarter was defined as 13 weeks (91 days).
They would have had to add a leap week every five or six years to keep that in sync with the normal calendar - did they do that, or did they just let the calendar drift?
It's been... almost 20 years since I looked at that.
I believe that it had a slightly floating start date.
And from Wayback (adjusted to fit same ordering) 2018-19: https://web.archive.org/web/20180626150216/https://investors...2019-20: https://web.archive.org/web/20200430103748/http://investors....
2021-22: https://web.archive.org/web/20210802092405/https://investors...
2022-23: https://web.archive.org/web/20221001020458/https://investors...
2023-24: https://web.archive.org/web/20230607023812/https://investors...
It appears that it floats a little bit.
I remember the 4-4-5 from back then (started in '98, was laid off in '09) because we had the old style BIG releases where it was a weekend of things changing (and that was ok). The last weekend of the first month was infrastructure major changes, the last weekend of the second month was software major changes, and the last two weeks of the third month were hard frozen for accounting to not have changes.
It looks like they had a 14-week quarter from April 27, 2020 to July 31, 2020. Given that there's only one 14-week quarter in the data set (which is about what you'd expect) I can't figure out what the rule is, but oh well.
Apparently financial analysts are (or were) surprised when that extra week leads to corresponding changes for other metrics: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01654...
Leap week
You know what is really wild and caused a few bugs in corporate reporting apps? Every 5 or 6 years you need to account for a 14 week quarter. 13 * 7 is 364 so four 13 week quarters will not add up to a calendar year.
I really like this. As easy as it is to be cynical about corporate-speak, I find that it's sometimes actually useful (except for the whole touching base and circling back jargon).
Questions. When do weeks start? On Saturdays or Sundays? How do you account for partial weeks at the beginning/end of years?
ISO 8601 covers that. Weeks start on Mondays. The first week of the year has January 4th in it, which means that it sometimes starts on a Monday in the previous Gregorian year. This is why strftime has separate format specifiers for ISO year and ISO week year, %Y and %G: https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/strftime.3.html#NO...
My company (left unnamed to protect the guilty) starts our week on Thursday. Or sometimes Wednesday. But definitely not on Tuesday! Except a couple of places where it's Tuesday.
It's juuuust close enough to ISO8601 where with a bit of forethought everything could have been easy.
I would understand someone asking if the week starts on Sunday or Monday, but I honest to God did not know some people start their week on Saturday.
Just an off by one error on OPs part, I guess
Can confirm. I got the weekend confused.
I was expecting something much dumber than this. I don't mean the idea or the execution. I mean what was being executed. If someone tells me they're going to tell the time "in corporate", I'm expecting inefficiency masquerading as management, inscrutable abbreviations, divisional infighting, at least one personality profile tool, teambuilding, and an astonishing use of passive voice. I was genuinely excited to see how that would translate to a clock.
Based on previous discussions during a review with higher ups, there need to be some options as to how the week numbers are counted. Can you action that by KW10.3 and report back. I will create a JIRA ticket for tracking. Many thanks for your support.
The ui is not lotus notes[1] enough. Still great.
[1]: or jira, sharepoint, salesforce, google docs, etc
I like it! I recently got quite interested into different ways of looking at the "seasonality" of the year, financial quarters are definitely also a way to look at it.
I really like looking at the way the sun defines stuff, I made a similar website for how long until the next solstice etc. https://solarcalendar.earth/
What I would add to this (perhaps below the fold):
1. The current time in a few major cities around the world (NYC, SFO, London, CET, Mumbai and Beijing come to mind), with an indication of where it's working day (which is not 9 to 5 everywhere). Particular emphasis should be put on timezones that just started and ended daylight saving (EU and US aren't synchronized on this).
2. Upcoming holidays in major world countries.
3. Info about which fiscal year it is and when that's going to change.
You could probably get Claude to build you an artifact for this in 5 minutes though.
I think you’ve missed the point. This isn’t actually meant to be useful. It’s commentary on the inane nature of corporate milestones.
Yeah adding holidays totally missing the point - everyone knows there are no holidays until quarterly goals are met.
Unsure if this is either meant to be funny and cringe or a cry for help. I can see it being either.
There is something awful about corpogarbage speak.
Its content marking for a metrics tracker / project management tool https://objectivetrackr.com/?utm_source=corporatewatch&utm_m...
It sounds like a marketing guerilla tactic rather than a funny web site.
to really amp it to corpo-speak, you should use the Severance styling, they've done a great job really taking out the personality from any of their design. feels very dystopian + peak corporate!
Love this.
It could look more awful-corporate though.
You could add how many "selling days" are left in the quarter (mon-fri minus holidays).
But what about the fiscal year?!
Could be useful to have the number of working days left in the quarter (even an approximation of 5/7 would do).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_of_Nine
5 out of 7? I must say, this is a grading scale like no other I’ve seen before!
I lose a little more will to live each time someone smugly reminds us that the fiscal year actually started in February or whatever the fuck. God dammit can we just have one CALENDAR. It’s okay I know you need to close the finances or whatever, but why can’t that just end in January and start again in February, instead of creating this dumb second year for ourselves.
You know what it is? A leaky abstraction. Implementation details of finance leaking into something as fundamentally basic as the calendar for the entire rest of the company. NO!!!
Please add Time Until Lunch.
Where are the AI features?
Should add how many working hours are left in the given quarter.
Translated to story points
Paired with a burn rate, assuming people work 20 hours per day, don't take PTO and don't get sick.
Management approved of the solution, and based on our data your can have it done by ... next week. Can you show the MVP?
Does it include unpaid hours checking mail and slack at home?
Why stop at different fiscal years? We need companies with different fiscal calendars entirely.
Lots of great announcements planned for our Q2 FY 44009 earnings call!
every week I search at least once “which week is it” — kudos :)
Uhm? The site doesn't show what week it is..? It's currently week 9 of 2025, but the site shows W7 of Q1. (Maybe that's what you meant? Searching for the current week in the quarter?)
oh, I was being subtle since everyone was asking for a feature request.
All that's missing is a "Happy [day-of-the-week]!" greeting
How am I supposed to integrate this into our company infra? No observability hooks, no load balancing support, no enterprise auth, no RBAC. Lame!
It's missing H1 / H2 :-)
I actually encountered T1 in a company presentation once. I thought they were joking, but it's apparently a thing also. I guess it hits the sweet spot between a half year and a quarter...
I prefer the Swedish site vecka.nu (meaning week.now)
Thanks. This is way better than my current solution, searching "[current_year] week calendar" on Google Images.
Please add how many lunches are left.
And how much time spent figuring out where to go to lunch.
Time is an illusion. Lunch time doubly so.
I did not expect that.
I expected this to be about promises and sales and contracts.
So it actually made me laugh.
Rating this website, it’s perfect.
I give it a perfect 5/7
That's too high.
We all known perfection only merits a "meets expectations" review.
Which is exactly the number of days a week you plebs will work, and that is final.
Only if the project is ahead of the "copy of pm-projQ1-gantchart.v2.final.xls", otherwise gear up for crunch time!
Not really relevant but somehow this reminded me of https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time
neat!
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Are you aware that not all corporations follow the calendar year?
I've always been curious about folks who use this phrasing and tone.
"Are you aware" always seems condescending to me. It's a weird assumption to make that because someone made a choice, that they weren't aware that there were other choices.
It's like walking up to someone who drives a Honda and saying "are you aware you could have bought a Ford?"
Please help me, us there another interpretation of this kind of phrasing?
You could take it at face value. I have no idea if this was a 15 minute off-the-cuff effort, or a larger researched project. Rather than assume they either did or did not know, I asked. If they knew, they can explain their choice more. If they did not, they have something new to look into.
If you are taking it as condescending, that is on you. It was simply a question.
The best way to look at it is that "are you aware" is always condescending. There are two answers; yes and no. If they say yes, they have to apologize for not adding your feature. If they say no, you're calling them ignorant. There isn't an out that deescalates and reduces the toxicity, so you're forcing everyone to now be as rude as you.
Phrasing your statement like "my corporate year starts on November 15th; is there any way to offset the start of the year?" would sound nicer. If the author was aware of that and didn't add the feature, then they can say so. Or if they weren't aware, they can say "good idea". Now nobody has to get defensive and the heat of the conversation can generally decrease, keeping everyone happy and polite.
> If you are taking it as condescending, that is on you.
Tone is an essential, unavoidable, yet undefineable thing. There's a geek fantasy that humans communicate logically and explicitly using only literal meanings of words, but the reality is that most human communication is in body language, tone, emotion, context, and more - and there's no way to define exactly how all those work or what they mean.
I got the same impression as the GP. I'm not always great at it myself but unless I make sure my tone conveys what I want it to convey, I'm rolling the dice.
Even if someone didn't find your initial comment condescending, they likely would find this one to be so.
I have no reason to doubt your explanation and intention, however I think it would have been more efficient if this misunderstanding could be avoided.
Maybe something like "This looks good. Would be nice to see it extended to support companies that do not follow the calendar year.".
I hate the "not all" argument. It falsely accuses us of making a claim that all X has property Y. It falsely implies that we cannot comment about a feature unless we expand the comment to the universe of other features. The "didn't you know" barb ties in here, as it presupposed that we somehow agreed to this "must include all" rule and broke it.
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I would like to integrate with 30 bespoke SSO providers; is that something that I could be charged $100/user/month for after spending 8 hours of my time in some Zoom calls with people that aren't sure?
100/user/bespoke sso provider/month right?
Plus the support contract and the 200% administrative fee.
Of course - no doubt there are many schemes! I have found this to be by far the most common
A quick Google shows 65% of public companies use calendar year as their FY.
At our startup, it's even more complicated :) we use calendar year for official financial / business metrics, while our planning quarter is offset by 1 month (Q1 = Feb/Mar/Apr).
Same.. This is my personal hell
At least you're using the actual months. I've recently had to deal with 4-5-4 Retail Calendars. Explaining to my coworkers why the data for September includes dates from both August and October, and that's Working As Intended.
I can't remember the last time I worked at a corporation that used the actual Gregorian calendar.
Most of the times it's some shadow-Greg calendar that's slightly out of phase. E.g., I think my 2025Q1 starts on 1 Mar? I've never been entirely sure.
Intel used some "work week" concept that I never figured out the rules for, in the entire time I worked there, beyond that it wasn't ISO weeks.
The spirit of the idea is neat, though, and I should build something like this internally but using whatever esocalendar we're using… then I'd be able to remember whether we're +1 mo, +2 mo, 1Y-1mo … or whatever … out of phase with normal people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar
> The International Fixed Calendar divides the year into 13 months of 28 days each. A type of perennial calendar, every date is fixed to the same weekday every year. Though it was never officially adopted at the country level, the entrepreneur George Eastman instituted its use at the Eastman Kodak Company in 1928, where it was used until 1989.
Might it have been something along that line?
s/Are you aware that/Btw,/